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NMK:
Many people with whom you have worked, and have been close to, have passed away in recent years. It must be very difficult to see your world disappearing around you.

WR:
It is very difficult. I was recently asked to unveil Dev Anand’s statue. It will be placed on Bandstand in Bandra. I felt very emotional. To think I had worked with him in my first Hindi film and there I was unveiling his statue. I couldn’t stop myself from crying.

NMK:
I was at that event and I could see you were very upset.

Bette Davis said something very wise: ‘Old age isn’t for
wimps.’ What do you think are the good and bad things about getting older?

WR:
One is more mature and patient. I think I am more understanding. I take life as it comes. I know everyone has problems—financial, emotional or health related. But when I am faced with problems, I try not to push them away. I think of ways of solving them.

I am not young any more. I am in a hurry to travel and see new places. I love travelling and taking photographs. Last year I went to London with Barota and we bought an Oyster card and sometimes travelled around by bus. If an Indian couple happened to be on the bus they would recognize me. I think Barota felt bad that Waheeda was seen roaming around in a London bus. But I don’t mind. What’s the big deal?

NMK:
You must have heard this question a hundred times before, but do you have a favourite film?

WR:
How strange! While we were having lunch today, Sohail and Kashvi asked me this very question. I said my top favourite is
Gone with the Wind
. My second favourite is
Legends of the Fall
—the one with Brad Pitt. I just love that film and don’t mind seeing it again and again. I think Brad Pitt was very good.

There are many Hindi films that I have liked. The ones that stand out now are the old
Andaz
,
Mother India
,
Mughal-e-Azam
,
Sujata
and
Do Bigha Zamin
.

Among the recent films I like Imtiaz Ali’s
Jab We Met
. I watch it again whenever it is on television. Kashvi always says:
‘Mummy, think of your age.’ So what? What has age got to do with it? I think it is a sweet and charming love story.

NMK:
For actors who are immortalized on the screen ageing can be nevertheless difficult to accept.

WR:
One must accept.

A long time ago when my eyes were getting weak, I had to wear reading glasses. In those days there was only one airline, Indian Airlines, and the flights would often get delayed, so I would always carry a book with me. One day Dev happened to see me reading in the airport lounge and said: ‘Waheeda, why have you got your specs on?’

‘Because I can’t read without them.’

‘That’s not the point! Why can’t you pretend you’re reading?’
[we laugh]

NMK:
You have known fame since 1955, when you first appeared in
Rojulu Marayi
. Did you find managing stardom over the years a difficult thing?

WR:
It is difficult being famous, especially if you become well known overnight. Suddenly all India knows you, all Asia knows you, and even people abroad know who you are. You’re on a high. Wherever you go, people want to meet you and know you.
You have attention, glamour, popularity and money. One film is enough for the world to know who you are. And sometimes it has nothing to do with talent.

Success in any field can change a personality. Maybe it did not affect me because my upbringing was very grounded. When we were growing up, I saw powerful army generals with cars and jeeps and everyone saluting them. But the moment they retired, no one bothered about them. They had to live in small flats and all that
shaan-baan
was gone.

I have always believed fame is here today and gone tomorrow. Who pays attention to you when you’re old? Everything is ultimately transitory.

We actors are popular, and so, to some extent, we’re forced to be artificial. Some of us do get cut off from reality. I accept I am getting old. I can’t turn the clock back. But would I now be asked to play a character like Rosie? No. Could I do the snake dance now? No.

NMK:
Starting as a teenager, you worked in the best Hindi films, and continued to have a hugely succesful career for over five decades. You have an army of fans and are deeply respected for your talent, integrity and grace. But it seems like you never fell for the illusion that fame would last. Am I right?

WR:
No, it doesn’t last.

I have believed in improving myself as a person, to keep learning. My curiosity has kept me alive. There was a time
when I suddenly got the urge to paint. I went on the Net and tried to look for a teacher, but had no luck. I happened to meet Srilekha, my neighbour Sikander Fateh Ali’s daughter-in-law, and asked her to find me an art teacher. She is an artist and, very sweetly, she brought me some paints, a brush and a drawing book. She told me to first train my hand by drawing. It was very kind of her.

I have a positive attitude to life and am peaceful in myself. I don’t like to dwell on problems and negative thoughts. I get up at six, meditate for half an hour, do a bit of exercise, have my coffee and read the papers. I walk up and down the corridor in my house for a bit and then call my sisters, or someone may call me for a chat. I have my bath and get ready for the day. But if you asked me what I do every day to get so busy, I couldn’t tell you. I am just very busy. Thank God.

NMK:
Do you think much about the past?

WR:
I don’t like thinking about the past. But when I do, I think about the beautiful things that have happened—the wonderful moments of my childhood and the things that my parents would tell me.

I don’t honestly believe in living in the past. It is the present that counts. I don’t think about the future either. Maybe that’s what gives me a sense of peace. I don’t worry about what will happen tomorrow. That just isn’t me.

With her son, Sohail, and daughter, Kashvi, at a recent function in Delhi where Waheeda Rehman was honoured as one of the twenty-five global Indians. Photograph courtesy: Taj Palace, Delhi.

Appendix
Filmography
YEAR
FILM
ROLE
1955
Rojulu Marayi
Dancer
1955
Kaalam Mari Pochu
Guest Appearance in the song
‘Yeru thooki povayae annae chinnanae’
1955
Alibabavum 40
Thirudargalum
Dancer
1955
Jayasimha
Princess
1956
C.I.D.
Kamini
1957
Pyaasa
Gulaabo
1958
12 O’Clock
Bani Choudhary
1958
Solva Saal
Laajwanti
1959
Kaagaz Ke Phool
Shanti
1960
Kala Bazar
Alka
1960
Ek Phool Char Kaante
Sushma
1960
Chaudhvin Ka Chand
Jameela
1960
Girl Friend
1961
Roop Ki Rani Choron Ka Raja
1962
Sahib Bibi Aur Ghulam
Jabba
1962
Bees Saal Baad
Radha
1962
Baat Ek Raat Ki
Neela/Meena
1962
Rakhi
1962
Abhijan
Gulaabi
1963
Mujhe Jeene Do
Chamelijaan
1963
Kaun Apna Kaun Paraya
Asha
1963
Ek Dil Sao Afsane
Sunita
1964
Kohra
Rajeshwari
1964
Shagoon
1964
Majboor
Sushila Mehta
1965
Guide
Rosie Marco/Miss Nalini
1966
Teesri Kasam
Hirabai
1966
Dil Diya Dard Liya
Roopa
1967
Patthar Ke Sanam
Taruna
1967
Ram Aur Shyam
Anjana
1967
Palki
Mehroo
1967
Ghar Ka Chirag
1968
Neel Kamal
Rajkumari Neel Kamal/Sita
1968
Aadmi
Meena
1968
Baazi
1969
Khamoshi
Nurse Radha
1969
Shatranj
Meena Thakur
1969
Meri Bhabhi
Maya
1970
Prem Pujari
Suman Mehra
1970
Man Ki Aankhen
Guddi (Geeta)
1970
Dharti
Jwala/Princess Chitralekha
1970
Darpan
Madhvi
1971
Man Mandir
Krishna and Radha
1971
Reshma Aur Shera
Reshma
1972
Zindagi Zindagi
Meeta Sharma
1972
Trisandhya
Indu
1972
Subha-o-Sham
Shirin
1972
Dil Ka Raaja
Laxmi
1973
Phagun
Shanta Bangan/Shamrao Dhamle
1973
Justice
1974
Bangaru Kalalu
1976
Aadalat
Radha
1976
Kabhi Kabhie
Anjali Malhotra
1978
Trishul
Shanti
1979
Aaj Ki Dhara
1980
Jyoti Bane Jwala
Malti
1980
Jwalamukhi
Savita Devi
1982
Sawaal
Anju D. Mehta
1982
Namak Halaal
Savitridevi
1982
Namkeen
Jugni (Jyoti)
1982
Dharam Kanta
Radha Singh
1983
Himmatwala
Savitri
1983
Mahaan
Janki
1983
Coolie
Salma
1983
Pyaasi Aankhen
1983
Ghungroo
Rani Maa
1984
Sunny
Gayatri Inderjeet
1984
Mashaal
Sudha Kumar
1984
Maqsad
Sharda
1986
Singhasan
Rajmata Vardhan
1986
Allah-Rakha
Advocate Salma Anwar
1989
Chandni
Mrs Khanna
1991
Lamhe
Dai Jaan
1991
Swayam
2002
Om Jai Jagadish
Saraswati Batra
2005
Water
Bhagavati (Narayan’s Mother)
2005
Maine Gandhi Ko Nahin Mara
Principal Khanna
2005
15 Park Avenue
Meethi’s Mother
2006
Rang De Basanti
Ajay’s Mother
2006
Chukkallo Chandrudu
Arjun’s Grandmother
2009
Delhi-6
Dadi (Annapurna Mehra)
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