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APPENDIX 10

BACK-ENGINEERED ALIEN CRAFT

A disclosure Project statement

Under the aegis of “The Disclosure Project,” Dr. Steven Greer interviewed and recorded hundreds of insider witnesses to, and participants in, top-secret UFO and extraterrestrial procedures and events. This video interview with the late Captain Bill Uhouse is on YouTube (
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzGYNJEA4Ag&feature=youtu.be
), where Uhouse is labeled “Witness #2.” It was conducted in October, 2000. This is a critical film because it validates the fact that alien scientists helped us to develop antigravity craft at Area 51 beginning in 1953, using the Kingman craft as a model, as discussed in chapter 5.

Bill Uhouse says:

I spent ten years in the Marine Corps, and four years working with the Air Force as a civilian doing experimental testing on aircraft since my Marine Corps days. I was a pilot in the service, and a fighter pilot; [I] fought in the latter part of World War II and the Korean War. I was discharged as a captain in the Marine Corps.

I didn't start working on flight simulators until about—well, the year was 1954, in September. After I got out of the Marine Corps, I took a job with the Air Force at Wright-Patterson doing experimental flight-testing on various different modifications of aircraft.

While I was at Wright-Patterson, I was approached by an individual who—and I'm not going to mention his name—[wanted] to determine if I wanted to work in an area on new creative devices. Okay? And, that was a flying disc simulator. What they had done: they had selected several of us, and they reassigned me to Link Aviation, which was a simulator manufacturer. At that time they were building what they called the C-11B, and F-102 simulator, B-47 simulator, and so forth. They wanted us to get experienced before we actually started work on the flying disc simulator, which I spent thirty-some years working on.

I don't think any flying disc simulators went into operation until the early 1960s—around 1962 or 1963. The reason why I am saying this is because the simulator wasn't actually functional until around 1958. The simulator that they used was for the extraterrestrial craft they had, which is a thirty-meter one that crashed in Kingman, Arizona, back in 1953 or 1952. That's the first one that they took out to the test flight. This ET craft was a controlled craft that the aliens wanted to present to our government—the USA. It landed about fifteen miles from what used to be an Army Air base, which is now a defunct Army base. But that particular craft, there were some problems with: number one—getting it on the flatbed to take it up to Area 51. They couldn't get it across the dam because of the road. It had to be barged across the Colorado River at the time, and then taken up Route 93 out to Area 51, which was just being constructed at the time. There were four aliens aboard that thing, and those aliens went to Los Alamos for testing.

They set up Los Alamos with a particular area for those guys, and they put certain people in there with them—people who were astrophysicists and general scientists—to ask them questions. The way the story was told to me was: there was only one alien that would talk to any of these scientists that they put in the lab with them. The rest wouldn't talk to anybody, or even have a conversation with them. You know, first they thought it was all ESP or telepathy, but you know, most of that is kind of a joke to me, because they actually speak—maybe not like we do—but they actually speak and converse. But there was only one who would [at Los Alamos].

The difference between this disc and other discs that they had looked at was that this one was a much simpler design. The disc simulator didn't have a reactor, [but] we had a space in it that looked like the reactor that wasn't the device we operated the simulator with. We operated it with six large capacitors that were charged with a million volts each, so there were six million volts in those capacitors. They were the largest capacitors ever built. These particular capacitors, they'd last for thirty minutes, so you could get in there and actually work the controls and do what you had to—to get the simulator, the disc, to operate.

So, it wasn't that simple, because we only had 30 minutes. Okay? But in the simulator you'll notice that there are no seat belts. Right? It was the same thing with the actual craft—no seat belts. You don't need seat belts, because when you fly one of these things upside down, there is no upside down like in a regular aircraft—you just don't feel it. There's a simple explanation for that: you have your own gravitational field right inside the craft, so if you are flying upside down—to you—you are right side up. I mean, it's just really simple, if people would look at it. I was inside the actual alien craft for a start-up. There weren't any windows. The only way we had any visibility at all was done with cameras or video-type devices. My specialty was the flight deck and the instruments on the flight deck. I knew about the gravitational field and what it took to get people trained.

Because the disc has its own gravitational field, you would be sick or disoriented for about two minutes after getting in, after it was cranked up. It takes a lot of time to become used to it. Because of the area and the smallness of it, just to raise your hand becomes complicated. You have to be trained—trained with your mind, to accept what you are going to actually feel and experience.

Just moving about is difficult, but after a while you get used to it and you do it—it's simple. You just have to know where everything is, and you [have] to understand what's going to happen to your body. It's no different than accepting the g-forces when you are flying an aircraft or coming out of a dive. It's a whole new ball game.

Each engineer who had anything to do with the design was part of the start-up crew. We would have to verify all the equipment that we put in—be sure it [worked] like it [was] supposed to, etc. I'm sure our crews have taken these craft out into space. I'm saying it probably took a while to train enough of the people, over a sufficient time period. The whole problem with the disc is that it is so exacting in its design and so forth. It can't be used like we use aircraft today, with dropping bombs and having machine guns in the wings.

The design is so exacting, that you can't add anything—it's got to be just right. There's a big problem in the design of where things are put. Say, where the center of the aircraft is, and that type of thing. Even the fact that we raised it three feet so the taller guys could get in—the actual ship was extended back to its original configuration, but it has to be raised.

We had meetings, and I ended up in a meeting with an alien. I called him J-Rod—of course, that's what they called him. I don't know if that was his real name or not, but that's the name the linguist gave him. I did draw a sketch, before I left, of him in a meeting. I provided it to some people and that was my impression of what I saw, an art picture of an alien that is working in cooperation with Earth-people as told here.

The alien used to come in with [Dr. Edward] Teller and some of the other guys, occasionally, to handle questions that maybe we'd have. But you have to understand that everything was specific to the group. If it wasn't specific to the group, you couldn't talk about it. It was on a need-to-know basis. And [the ET], he'd talk. He would talk, but he'd sound just like as if you spoke—he'd sound like you. You know, he's like a parrot, but he'd try and answer your question. A lot of times he'd have a hard time understanding, because if you didn't put it on paper and explain yourself, half the time he couldn't give you a good answer.

Sketch of J-Rod wearing a human man's shirt. Drawing by retired mechanical engineer Bill Uhouse, based on the entity's appearance at a science meeting with physicist Edward Teller and other scientists in the 1970s or early 1980s.

The preparation we had before meeting this alien was, basically, going through all of the different nationalities in the world. Then they got into going into other forms of life, even down to animals and that type of thing. And this J-Rod—his skin was pinkish, but a little bit rough—that kind of stuff; not horrible-looking, you know—or, to me, he wasn't horrible-looking.

Some of the guys who were in the particular group that I was in—they never even made it. . . . [W]hen they gave you the psychological questions, I just answered them the way I felt and I had no problem. That's what they wanted to know—if you'd become upset—but it never bothered me. It didn't amount to much. So basically, the alien was only giving engineering advice and science advice. For example, I performed the calculations but needed more help. I spoke of a book that—well, it's not a book; it's a big assembly with various divisions dealing with gravitational technology, and the key elements are in there, but all the information wasn't there. Even our top mathematicians couldn't figure some of this stuff out, so the alien would assist.

Sometimes you'd get into a spot where you [would] try and try and try, and it wouldn't work. And that's when he'd come in [the alien]. They would tell him to look at this and see what we did wrong. Over the last 40 years or so, not counting the simulators—I'm talking about actual craft—there are probably two or three dozen, and various sizes that we built.

I don't know much about the ones that they brought here [ETs]. I know about that one [craft] out of Kingman, but that's about it. And I know the company that hauled it out of there—who is out here now. But, there's one that operates with certain chemicals.

I think these triangles that people are seeing are two or three t30meter craft that are in the center of it [the triangle]. And the outside perimeter—well, you could put anything you want, as long as these particular ones meet the design criteria, and they'll operate.

You know, there were certain reasons for the secrecy. I could understand that; it was no different than the first atomic bomb that they built. But they are getting so far ahead now with aircraft design. And like I told you gentlemen earlier—that by 2003, most of this stuff will be out for everybody to look at. Maybe not the way that everybody expects it, but in some manner they determine appropriate to show everybody. You know, a big surprise. The reason why I said that is because the document I signed ends in 2003 and I'm not the only one who signed those. But that gravitational manual—if you ever get one of these volumes of documents, you'd be on top of the world. You'd know everything.

APPENDIX 11

EXCERPT FROM PRESIDENT REAGAN'S BRIEFING OF MARCH 1981

In this appendix, the CARETAKER resumes his briefing to President Ronald Reagan. In chapter 3, which was about Roswell, he informed the president about the crash and its ramifications. Here, he gives the details of Project Serpo.

The CARETAKER:
Mr. President, in 1964, we were able to have our very first controlled encounter with the Ebens. Let me first give you the background. EBE was a mechanic, not a scientist. He was still able to teach us some of the Eben language. Their language was very difficult for our linguists to learn because it consisted of tones, not words. However, we were able to translate some basic words. EBE showed us their communications device. It was a strange-looking device that had three (3) parts. Once assembled, the device sent out signals, something like our Morse code system, although there was a problem. During the crash in 1947, one part of this communication system was broken. EBE was unable to repair it until our scientists found some items that could be used in place of the broken parts. Once the communication device was repaired, EBE sent our messages. We had to trust EBE as to the contents of those messages.

You can imagine what some of our military commanders thought of this. EBE could be sending out a distress call that could result in some invasion. But that, of course, never happened. EBE continued to send messages until his death. But once he died, then we were on our own. We were able to crudely operate the device. We sent several messages out over a six-(6) month period (1953). But we did not receive any return messages.

PRESIDENT:
Excuse me, did EBE receive any return messages?

The CARETAKER:
Getting back to the messages, Mr. President, EBE sent out six (6) messages. One letting his home planet know that he was alive and his comrades were dead, another explaining the two crashes, the third was a request to be rescued, the fourth was a message suggesting a meeting between his leaders and our leaders. The last message suggested some form of an EXCHANGE program.

WM CASEY:
Mr. President, we'll go into that later.

PRESIDENT:
(not understood). . . What . . . the exchange program?

WM CASEY:
Yes, Mr. President. We can give you another couple of hours on that subject.

PRESIDENT:
We had one?

WM CASEY:
Can I speak to you privately, please, Mr. President?

PRESIDENT:
OK, yes . . . you mean now? (not understood)

WM CASEY:
Well, let us put this one on the back burner and go on with the remainder of this briefing.

PRESIDENT:
OK.

The CARETAKER:
Mr. President, we don't think he did, but we could not be entirely certain. But, our scientists fine-tuned our efforts over the next eighteen months and finally sent two messages in 1955 that were received. We received a reply. We were able to translate about 30 percent of the message. We turned to several language specialists from several different universities and even several from foreign universities. Finally, we were able to translate most of the messages. We decided to reply in English and see if the Ebens could translate our language more easily than we could theirs.

PRESIDENT:
What did the messages say? The one we received from the Ebens? So, I guess they didn't get the messages sent by EBE? Or did it take that long to respond? Oh, yes, EBE died before we got those messages, never mind.

The CARETAKER:
Mr. President, the first message we received acknowledged our message and asked questions about the crew of the two missing craft. It also gave a series of numbers that we think were some type of coordinates.

PRESIDENT:
OK, so they wanted to know the coordinates of the crash sites on Earth? I'm sure they wanted to know about their crew. Did we tell them all but one was dead? No, wait; I'm sure when EBE sent his messages that is probably the first thing he sent. Was EBE a military person or what?

The CARETAKER:
Mr. President, we believe EBE was a member of their air force or maybe something like NASA.

PRESIDENT:
OK, please continue.

The CARETAKER:
Thank you, Mr. President. Finally, we were able to translate most of the messages. As I said, we decided to respond in English. Approximately four months later, we received a reply in broken English. Sentences contained nouns and adjectives, but no verbs. It took us several months to translate the message. We then sent Eben our typed English lessons in a series of one-sheet formats.

Without going into the technical description of the Eben communications device, it was like a television screen and a keypad, but the pad contained several different Eben characters depending on the number of times you held down one key. We were able to transpose our English-typed words into the second part of the device, which was similar to our facsimile transmission system. It took our scientists some time to perfect this, but it worked. Six months later, we received another English message. This time it was clearer, but not clear enough. Ebens were confusing several different English words and still failed to complete a proper sentence.

PRESIDENT:
Gee, I do that all of the time (sounds of laughter). I just cannot imagine how an alien race could view our language. We have thousands of different languages on Earth and they probably have just one on their SERPO planet. That is truly amazing.

The CARETAKER:
Yes, Mr. President, I cannot imagine living on a planet with just one language. But we were able to provide the basic skill level for them to communicate in English. It took time, but they realized our efforts. In one message, they provided us with a form of the Eben alphabet with the equivalent English letters. Our linguists had a very difficult time figuring this out. The written Eben language was simple characters and symbols, but our linguists had a difficult time comparing the two written languages.

Over the next five (5) years, we were able to perfect our understanding of the Eben language somewhat and the Ebens were able to better understand English. However, we had a major problem—trying to coordinate a date, time, and location for an Eben landing on Earth. Even though we could basically understand some Eben and the Ebens could understand some English, we could not understand their time and date system and they could not understand ours. We sent them our Earth's rotation schedule, revolution, date system, etc.

For some reason the Ebens never understood this. In return, the Ebens sent us their system, which was difficult for our scientists to understand because we had no reference to their planet. The Ebens did not explain any astronomical date of SERPO or their system. We then decided to just send pictures showing Earth, landmarks, and a simple numbering system for time periods. We had many problems trying to send pictures using their facsimile system. We couldn't be sure they were receiving what we sent.

We had a lot of trial and errors in doing this. We received back some strange messages from the Ebens, basically big question marks regarding what we sent them as to the pictures. We then decided on narrowing any future landing location for them to the location of their crash in New Mexico. We concluded they must have that location. We are sure EBE sent that to his home planet prior to his death. We did find some star charts . . . well . . . as we call them, in both crashed spacecraft.

They were difficult to understand because they were on a block that we later figured out went into a certain panel on the crashed craft's instruments. Once the panel was in place, the board showed a star system. In fact, we were able to fit all the found boards into the panel and view many different star systems. We then put to work our astronomers in deciphering the star systems. It didn't take them very long to determine the various star systems. We also found several strange spots on the star charts.

We concluded these spots were where the travel space tunnels that EBE described were located. Our astronomers compared the different star charts and found that they were not consecutive. Meaning that one star chart was from one part of the universe and the next was a chart closer to their home system. Our scientists concluded the spots on the chart were a form of shortcuts from one point of space to another. Some of our top astronomers were briefed into the program in order to study the charts. I'm sure they were given only the minimum amount of information they needed, something like a need-to-know program.

PRESIDENT:
OK, that is a lot to absorb. Wow, well, I have many questions, but I guess I'll just wait now. I have something to attend to now. But let us take a short break and come back to this.

WM CASEY:
Mr. President, how much time do you have left?

PRESIDENT:
Well, Bill, let me check. (Long pause.) I need to call some people on another matter. Give me about fifteen minutes. Is that OK?

WM CASEY:
Yes, Mr. President, we are here at your disposal.

PRESIDENT:
I have listened intently to this briefing. I have many questions, which I realize traverses several different layers of secrecy. I don't want to mix up the different layers. But I can see how government bureaucracy exists. That is one thing I can probably change as president! Bill, let's go to the next layer.

WM CASEY:
Mr. President, do you want the same people involved?

PRESIDENT:
Yes, let's just continue.

WM CASEY:
OK, CARETAKER, take over.

The CARETAKER:
Thank you. When EBE was alive, he showed us two devices. One was a communication system and one was an energy device. The communication system did not work without the energy device. Eventually, a scientist from Los Alamos figured out the two systems and connected them. After EBE died, we were able to send transmissions, as I said earlier. EBE built up a strong friendship with a U.S. Army major, who was his guardian.

The two of them decided that one of Eben's first messages (of the five sent) was a request for an exchange program between the Ebens and our military personnel. Remember, I mentioned six (6) messages. The sixth consisted of landing coordinates for Earth. That information wasn't clearly documented back then. We are not sure of the exact chain of events between EBE and the major. As I said earlier, we were able to eventually communicate with the Ebens.

Over a period of a few years, we could send and receive information. We finally received a startling message from the Ebens. They wanted to visit Earth, retrieve their spacemen['s] bodies and meet with Earthlings. They provided a time, date, and location. We figure that the Ebens were continually visiting Earth and had probably mapped it. However, the date was about eight (8) years in the future. Our military figured something was wrong and that maybe the Ebens were confusing Earth time with Eben time. After a long series of messages, it was determined the Ebens would land on Earth on Friday, April 24, 1964.

PRESIDENT:
Just how did we figure the date?

The CARETAKER:
Mr. President, these messages occurred over a period of several years. By this time, we both had a working knowledge of the other's seasons, which was based on the Earth's rotation, which also figured into our time periods. We had a working knowledge of their forty-hour days. They were a little smarter than us, being able to comprehend our language and our time periods.

PRESIDENT:
OK, that makes sense. But . . .(not understood). . . about . . . (not understood). . . the aliens?

The CARETAKER:
Mr. President, we did have a basic understanding of their language. We could understand basic words and symbols. They understood more of our language than we did theirs.

PRESIDENT:
OK, then what happened?

The CARETAKER:
Well . . .

WM CASEY:
Mr. President, this is where things get very interesting.

PRESIDENT:
OK, I'm waiting . . . (not understood)

The CARETAKER:
Our government, specifically MJ-12, met in secret to plan the event. Decisions were made, then changed many times. We had just about twenty-five months from the time we finally received their message of the date to prepare for their arrival. Several months into the planning, President Kennedy decided to approve a plan to exchange a special military team. The USAF was tasked as the lead agency.

The USAF officials picked special civilian scientists to assist in the planning and crew selection. The team members' selection process was the hardest to accomplish. Several plans were suggested and then changed. It took months for the planners to decide on the selection criteria for each team member. They decided that each member must be military, single, no children, and a career member. They had to be trained in different skills.

WM CASEY:
CARETAKER, let's just go into the general stuff here. I don't think the president wants to know every single minute detail.

PRESIDENT:
Well, if I had the time, I would (not understood) . . . but, I understand that.

The CARETAKER:
Mr. President, a team of 12 men were selected. However, during this time period, President Kennedy died. The nation was shocked, as you know . . .

PRESIDENT:
Yes, everyone was shocked. I can understand what must have happened during the project when John died.

The CARETAKER:
President Johnson continued the program. When it came time for the meeting, we were ready. The landing occurred in New Mexico. We had everything prepared. We had a hoax landing location just in case it was leaked. The landing occurred and we greeted the Ebens. However, a mixup happened. They were not prepared to accept our exchange personnel. Everything was placed on hold. Finally, in 1965, the Ebens landed in Nevada and we exchanged 12 of our men for one of theirs.

PRESIDENT:
One? Why just one?

WM CASEY:
Mr. President, this wasn't clearly documented in the reports that we read.

PRESIDENT:
One . . . was this their ambassador?

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