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Sergeant Kratz, a mechanic deployed with his unit, Bomber Wing 100, in southern Russia in 1942, focuses on how the executions have been technically optimized. He notes, in a professional tone, that the forms of killing are still not adequate because too few victims fall into the graves.

Kratz’s perspective is clinical, as though he were describing just another of the many technical complications one might experience as a soldier, but at the end of his anecdote, he does point out that the execution was something out of the ordinary, something that, in his words, will be “avenged.” Descriptions of mass killings often conclude with bits of reflection like this. Many of the speakers seem aware that
retribution might follow excesses that went far beyond conventional warfare and the sorts of
crimes deemed normal and usual in wartime. Mass executions violated and deviated from wartime expectations to the extent that soldiers assumed that they would bring punitive consequences, if Germany lost the war.

Mass executions of
Lithuanian Jews in 1942. (Photographer unknown; Preußischer Kulturbesitz Picture Archive)

Another dialogue revolving around a “
Jewish action” in the Lithuanian capital of
Vilnius is worth citing at length because it superbly illustrates the contradictory but clinical ways in which soldiers observed atrocities. The dialogue also shows what details about the Holocaust particularly interested soldiers. The interlocutors were two navy men
who were part of a U-boat crew, twenty-three-year-old mechanic
Helmut Hartelt and twenty-one-year-old sailor
Horst Minnieur, who witnessed the scene he describes while serving with the
Reich Labor Service:

M
INNIEUR
(re execution of Jews in
L
ITHUANIA
, near V
ILNA
while he was a member of the “Arbeitsdienst”): They had to strip to their shirts and the women to their vests and knickers and then they were shot by the “
Gestapo.” All the Jews there were executed.

H
ARTELT
: In their shirts?

M
INNIEUR
: Yes.

H
ARTELT
: What was the reason for that?

M
INNIEUR
: Well, so that they don’t take anything into the grave with them. The things were collected up, cleaned and mended.

H
ARTELT
: They used them, did they?

M
INNIEUR
: Yes, of course.

H
ARTELT
: (Laughs.)

M
INNIEUR
: Believe me, if you had seen it it would have made you shudder! We watched one of these executions once.

H
ARTELT
: Did they shoot them with
machine guns?

M
INNIEUR
: With
tommy guns … We were actually there when a pretty girl was shot.

H
ARTELT
: What a pity.

M
INNIEUR
: They were all shot ruthlessly! She knew that she was going to be shot. We were going past on motor cycles and saw a procession; suddenly she called to us and we stopped and asked where they were going. She said they were going to be shot. At first we thought she was making some sort of a joke. She more or less told us the way to where they were going. We rode there and—it was quite true—they were shot.

H
ARTELT
: Did she walk there in her
clothes?

M
INNIEUR
: Yes, she was smartly dressed. She certainly was a marvellous girl.

H
ARTELT
: Surely the one who shot her, shot wide.

M
INNIEUR
: No one can do anything about it. With … like that no one shoots wide. They arrived and the first ones had to line up and were shot. The fellows were standing there with their tommy guns and just sprayed quickly up and down the line, once to the right and once to the left with their tommy guns; there were six men there and a row of—

H
ARTELT
: Then no one knew who had shot the girl?

M
INNIEUR
: No, they didn’t know. They clipped on a magazine, fired to the right and left and that was that! It didn’t matter whether they were still alive or not; when they were hit they fell over backwards into a pit. Then the next group came up with ashes and chloride of lime and scattered it over those who were lying down there; then they lined up and so it went on.

H
ARTELT
: Did they have to cover them? Why was that?

M
INNIEUR
: Because the bodies would rot; they tipped chloride of lime over them so that there should be no smell and all that.

H
ARTELT
: What about the people who were in there who were not properly dead yet?

M
INNIEUR
: That was bad luck for them; they died down there!

H
ARTELT
: (Laughs.)

M
INNIEUR
: I can tell you, you heard a terrific screaming and shrieking!

H
ARTELT
: Were the women shot at the same time?

M
INNIEUR
: Yes.

H
ARTELT
: Were you watching when the pretty Jewess was there?

M
INNIEUR
: No, we weren’t there then. All we know was that she was shot.

H
ARTELT
: Did she say anything beforehand? Had you met her before?

M
INNIEUR
: Yes, we met her the day before; the next day we wondered why she didn’t come. Then we set off on the motor-cycle.

H
ARTELT
: Was she working there too?

M
INNIEUR
: Yes.

H
ARTELT
: Making roads?

M
INNIEUR
: No, she cleaned our
barracks. The week we were there we went into the barracks to sleep so that we didn’t … outside—

H
ARTELT
: I bet she let you sleep with her too?

M
INNIEUR
: Yes, but you had to take care not to be found out. It’s nothing now; it was really a scandal, the way they slept with Jewish women.

H
ARTELT
: What did she say, that she—?

M
INNIEUR
: Nothing at all. Well, we chatted together and she said she came from down there, from L
ANDSBERG
on the W
ARTHE
, and was at
G
ÖTTINGEN
university.

H
ARTELT
: And a girl like that let anyone sleep with her!

M
INNIEUR
: Yes. You couldn’t tell that she was a Jewess; she was
quite a nice type, too. It was just her bad luck that she had to die with the others. 75,000 Jews were shot there.
213

Clothing from the victims of the Babi Yar massacre, 1941. (Hessisches Hauptstaatsarchiv, Wiesbaden)

This dialogue brings together a number of things that interested many soldiers about the “Jewish actions” (a term they themselves did not use). One primary interest is in the procedure, which is described in detail. The soldiers also noted that women, too, were executed, even pretty ones. In this case, the teller of the anecdote even appears to have had personal contact with one of the victims, who had done
forced labor at his military camp. Hartelt seems to assume that attractive forced laborers were required to service soldiers’
sexual desires. Minnieur confirms that this was, of course, the case, but points out that German soldiers had to be careful not to get caught in acts the Nazis considered a defilement of
racial purity. Minnieur continues by referring to the practice of Jewish women being shot
after sex so that they could not inform on soldiers. Clearly the mass executions opened up an arena for
violence in which a variety of acts were permissible. If people were going to be eradicated one way or the other, one was allowed to do otherwise impossible or impermissible things to them before they were
murdered. It is striking that these two men, whose use of the formal form of address implies that they did not know one another well, could speak completely frankly about an otherwise delicate topic. Stories of sexual abuse were part of the routine inventory of soldiers’ conversations and were not greeted with any sort of moral objections.

The conversation then continues casually. Minnieur reports that the victim went to university in the German city of
Göttingen, causing Hartelt to remark that she was sleeping around. Formulations like that exemplify the specific attitudes the soldiers have toward sexual violence. They don’t see anything particularly objectionable about
rape. They take what they would call a “human” interest in victims who are attractive and feel personally involved in the latter’s fate. But in light of the massive number of victims, which Minnieur puts at 75,000, an individual tragedy such as that of a pretty Jewess has no significance.

For the soldiers, murder is destiny, as though some sort of higher power had preordained that select people—whether well educated, attractive, and stylishly dressed or not—
had
to become victims. That demonstrates the
frame of reference in which the mass eradication
of Jews was interpreted. In this excerpt from the protocols, Hartelt and Minnieur do not just discuss mass murder. They also indirectly communicate that they do not consider mass murder to be unjust, immoral, or indeed negative in any sense. Directly witnessing the killings might, as Minnieur put it, cause a feeling of horror. But murder per se is part of the universe of things that simply happen.

*
Asterisks indicate a pseudonym for a POW not explicitly named in the surveillance protocols.

Frame of Reference: Annihilation

“They call us ‘
German swine.’ Look at our great men, such as W
AGNER
, L
ISZT
, G
OETHE
, S
CHILLER
, and they call us ‘German swine.’ I really can’t make it out.

“Do you know why that is? It is because the Germans are too
humane and they take advantage of this humaneness and abuse us.”
214

The strongest indicator that a frame of reference is functioning is the bewilderment an individual feels at other people seeing things differently than he does.
Puzzlement about how members of other nations could regard Germans as “swine” also tells us a lot about what the Holocaust meant in ordinary soldiers’ lives. The gravity of the atrocity by no means caused Germans to question their self-appointed
status as the bearers of high culture. There may have been an undertone in the protocols suggesting an awareness that limits had been transgressed. But National Socialist moral codes had convinced many soldiers that Jews represented an
objective problem that needed to be solved. This was part of the reference frame in which they interpreted the events they described to one another. The frame of reference was why soldiers tended to
criticize the way mass murder was taking place, but not the fact that it was happening.

For example, a W/T (wireless telegraph) operator, who was shot down in a Junkers 88 bomber over northern Africa in November 1942, recalled:

A
MBERGER
: I once spoke to a Feldwebel who said: “This mass-
shooting
of Jews absolutely sickens me. This murdering is no profession! Hooligans can do that.”
215

In the main, soldiers saw the persecution and even
annihilation
of Jews as sensible while criticizing the means of carrying it out, and that sort of logic also extended to people like
Auschwitz commandant
Rudolf Höss
216
and Holocaust planner
Adolf Eichmann.
217
The participation of people in a variety of functions and at a variety of
hierarchical levels was key to the Holocaust—as was the willingness of myriads of others to tolerate what they had witnessed. Marksmen at the shooting grounds where mass executions were carried out
218
or concentration camp
doctors
219
charged with selecting who would be killed immediately and who was deemed fit for
work were concerned with methods of killing, not with justifying its necessity. The same applies to countless others who were directly or peripherally involved in the Holocaust.

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